Catullus and Sappho

Catullus:
86
Many find Quintia stunning. I find her attractive:
Tall, “regal,” fair in complexion—these points are granted.
But stunning? No, I deny it: the woman is scarcely venerious,
There’s no spice at all in the length of her body!
Now Lesbia is stunning, for Lesbia’s beauty is total:
And by that sum all other women are diminished.

39
Egnatius, because he has bright white teeth,always smiles: If someone comes to the defendant'sbench, when the speaker arouses weeping,he grins; If there is weeping at the funeral pyre ofa dutiful son, when the bereaved mother laments her only son,he grins. Whatever it is, wherever he is,whatever he is doing, he grins: he has this disease,neither elegant, as I think, nor refined.Therefore I must warn you, my good Egnatius.If you were a city man or a Sabine or a Tiburnanor a thrifty Umbrian or a fat Etruscanor a swarthy or toothy Lanuvian ora Transpadane, to touch on my own people as well,or anyone you like who cleans his teeth with clean water,I still should not want you to smile on all occasions:for nothing is more silly than a silly smile.Now you are a Celtiberian: in the land of Celtiberia,whatever each man has urinated, with this he is accustomedin the morning to rub his teeth and gums until they are red,so that the more polished those teeth of yours are,the more urine they proclaim you to have drunk.

70
My woman says there is no one whom she’d rather marry
Than me, not even Jupiter, if he came courting.
That’s what she says—but what a woman says to a passionate lover
Ought to be scribbled on wind, on running water.

94
Mentula is an adulterer. Why certainly he is. How could he be anythingelse with a name such as his. It is as natural as for a pot to gather vegetables.

Excerpts from Sappho
‘Some say horsemen, some say warriors’

Some say horsemen, some say warriors,
Some say a fleet of ships is the loveliest
Vision in this dark world, but I say it’s
What you love.

It’s easy to make this clear to everyone,
Since Helen, she who outshone
All others in beauty, left
A fine husband,

And headed for Troy
Without a thought for
Her daughter, her dear parents…
Led astray….

And I recall Anaktoria, whose sweet step
Or that flicker of light on her face,
I’d rather see than Lydian chariots
Or the armed ranks of the hoplites.



‘Stand up and look at me, face to face’

Stand up and look at me, face to face
My friend,
Unloose the beauty of your eyes.....


‘Love shook my heart’

Love shook my heart,
Like the wind on the mountain
Troubling the oak-trees.


‘He’s equal with the Gods, that man’

He’s equal with the Gods, that man
Who sits across from you,
Face to face, close enough, to sip
Your voice’s sweetness,

And what excites my mind,
Your laughter, glittering. So,
When I see you, for a moment,
My voice goes,

My tongue freezes. Fire,
Delicate fire, in the flesh.
Blind, stunned, the sound
Of thunder, in my ears.

Shivering with sweat, cold
Tremors over the skin,
I turn the colour of dead grass,
And I’m an inch from dying.



Sunday, September 27, 2009

1. After reading these poems, it seems like Catullus is the type of person who only has eyes for his love. Though he clearly agrees that Quintia is attractive, It’s not good enough for him. In his eyes there is no one more beautiful then Lesbia. After doing some research, I learned that Lesbia is the name he uses in his poetry to represent the woman he was deeply in love with. In the poem It Is clear that everyone thinks Quintia is stunning. Since Catullus loves Lesbia, in his eyes she is the most beautiful, and stunning woman ever. He says, “Lesbia’s beauty is total” which means she is the complete woman. I believe that when you are in love, you always believe that your love is the best looking because they are in your eyes. Its as if love places a spell on you to have eyes only for that one person. If your love was average looking and the person next to them was stunning. You would probably say your love was the most stunning of the two. Catullus is a man who is in love and is not afraid to express it. His vision of beauty expresses just that.

2. In poem 32, Catullus begs a woman (ipsitilla) to meet with him secretly like lovers do. He asks her to stay indoors and get herself ready for nine rounds of sex. He describes that he is ready to go and satisfy her needs. If she wants it, all she has to do is give the order.

In poem 33, Catullus speaks of this father and son who are both thieves. He describes that they are sneaking around bathhouses. The father is more of a thief while the son is busy selling his body like a prostitute. Catullus shows disgust when he says “why don’t you both get the hell out of here and go to the devil?” He then mocks them by saying the father’s reputation is well known, as a thief and the son couldn't sell himself for a penny.

In poem 37, Catullus attacks these men in a bar who are kind of offensive in a sexual way. He asks them if they think they are the only ones with a penis? And do they think of others as nothing more then goats? He then goes on to express his love for this girl who has left his embrace and has been having sex with all these men. There are about 100 to 200 of them there. It seems she is prostituting herself to these men and that is the reason for Catullus's anger when addressing the men in this bar.

The common theme in all three poems is sex. There are some other themes such as prostitution and sneakiness. In all the poems he shows different emotions towards sex. In the first he is excited and begging for it with his love. In the second, he is disgusted by this boy selling sex. In the third, he is upset that his love is selling sex to these men. Catullus social commentaries are valuable for modern times. There is not much that has changed therefore his opinions are not outdated. There is still prostitution but its done more quietly and the views he has on sex are pretty much still around.

3. Romantic love is two people who are deeply in love and very passionate about each other. There is a difference between loving someone and being in love with someone. Loving someone can mean anything. You love your family, your friends. It simply means you really care about that person. When you are in love with someone it means you do more then just care about them. You think about them all the time, your excited to see them, you wish to spend every moment of everyday together. Your world revolves around this person and there is nowhere you would rather be then with that person. This love turns romantic because you do anything to make your love happy and the feelings are so strong that everything from small to big will be romantic.


2 comments:

Irina said...

I have to say that your interpretation of how he feels about these two women , Quintia and Lesbia, is very different from how I felt that he perceived them. I did not think about the fact that Lesbia is the most beautiful because he's in love and he believes it to be so. I did not think that this poem can be interpreted into two extremes; one in which Catullus finds this woman physically attractive and another in which she is beautiful because he's in love. When you really think about it Lesbia can be the most physically attractive woman to him and be the woman that he is in love with.

Nuno Costa said...

Here is my comment