Catullus and Sappho

Catullus:
86
Many find Quintia stunning. I find her attractive:
Tall, “regal,” fair in complexion—these points are granted.
But stunning? No, I deny it: the woman is scarcely venerious,
There’s no spice at all in the length of her body!
Now Lesbia is stunning, for Lesbia’s beauty is total:
And by that sum all other women are diminished.

39
Egnatius, because he has bright white teeth,always smiles: If someone comes to the defendant'sbench, when the speaker arouses weeping,he grins; If there is weeping at the funeral pyre ofa dutiful son, when the bereaved mother laments her only son,he grins. Whatever it is, wherever he is,whatever he is doing, he grins: he has this disease,neither elegant, as I think, nor refined.Therefore I must warn you, my good Egnatius.If you were a city man or a Sabine or a Tiburnanor a thrifty Umbrian or a fat Etruscanor a swarthy or toothy Lanuvian ora Transpadane, to touch on my own people as well,or anyone you like who cleans his teeth with clean water,I still should not want you to smile on all occasions:for nothing is more silly than a silly smile.Now you are a Celtiberian: in the land of Celtiberia,whatever each man has urinated, with this he is accustomedin the morning to rub his teeth and gums until they are red,so that the more polished those teeth of yours are,the more urine they proclaim you to have drunk.

70
My woman says there is no one whom she’d rather marry
Than me, not even Jupiter, if he came courting.
That’s what she says—but what a woman says to a passionate lover
Ought to be scribbled on wind, on running water.

94
Mentula is an adulterer. Why certainly he is. How could he be anythingelse with a name such as his. It is as natural as for a pot to gather vegetables.

Excerpts from Sappho
‘Some say horsemen, some say warriors’

Some say horsemen, some say warriors,
Some say a fleet of ships is the loveliest
Vision in this dark world, but I say it’s
What you love.

It’s easy to make this clear to everyone,
Since Helen, she who outshone
All others in beauty, left
A fine husband,

And headed for Troy
Without a thought for
Her daughter, her dear parents…
Led astray….

And I recall Anaktoria, whose sweet step
Or that flicker of light on her face,
I’d rather see than Lydian chariots
Or the armed ranks of the hoplites.



‘Stand up and look at me, face to face’

Stand up and look at me, face to face
My friend,
Unloose the beauty of your eyes.....


‘Love shook my heart’

Love shook my heart,
Like the wind on the mountain
Troubling the oak-trees.


‘He’s equal with the Gods, that man’

He’s equal with the Gods, that man
Who sits across from you,
Face to face, close enough, to sip
Your voice’s sweetness,

And what excites my mind,
Your laughter, glittering. So,
When I see you, for a moment,
My voice goes,

My tongue freezes. Fire,
Delicate fire, in the flesh.
Blind, stunned, the sound
Of thunder, in my ears.

Shivering with sweat, cold
Tremors over the skin,
I turn the colour of dead grass,
And I’m an inch from dying.



Sunday, September 27, 2009

1- It seems that Catullus uses mathematical comparison in order to describe Lesbia’s beauty in a more vivid way. He says, “Lesbia is stunning” while concerning Quintia he states, “I find her attractive.” Even though many find Quintia stunning, Catullus was only able to find such a description in Lesbia because she is the one that he loves. As the saying goes “ A dunkey's mother finds her son a stallion.”

2- #32 Catullus is talking to Ipsitilla who is a prostitute. He is telling here that he is coming at nine and not to take another client. He is only interested in having sex with her, and I do not think he has any feelings for her. He is being insensible and very demanding.

#33This poem is about a father and son, Vibennius and Vibennius Junior. Vibennius is a thief and his son a prostitute. The father is a good thief, due to what was stated by Catullus “ O greatest of thieves skulking about the bathouses.” It also seems that the son is a bad looking dude ,“And you, son, couldn't sell that hairy ass of yours for a penny.”

#37 In this poem he is talking to his comrades and seems to be upset with them. He is telling them that they are not the only one’s that have penises and are permitted to have sex with as many girls as they want. He is threatening them to “ force you 200 sitters together to perform oral sex on me?” also he is talking about the women that he love more than any other man will love a girl.

3-Romantic love is when two individuals are willing to do anything for one another, regardless of the consequences that may be at hand. Their love to one another is limitless so they say. They will live together through the bitter and sweat. No obstacle can divide them from each other. And to them it may feel that they can not live without one another. However, such perfection is rare and is usually destined to fade soon. " so they say"

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